There seem to be a few hockey fans who trip across this blog on the internet, so I thought I would give everyone the heads up on a contest I am running over at my hockey blog where I am giving away the hits from a box of ITG 1972: The Year in Hockey. Check it out here. One of the ways you can get entered is to throw a few hits my way by linking to it, so feel free.
I’m sure you thought I’d forgotten about this, but I haven’t. I’ve just been a little bit busier than I would like at work. My project was showing signs of working, so I was really leaning hard in that direction this week.
The Natural History minis in Champ’s Hockey were a sticking point for many collectors. There was a lot of negative response. Basically ‘who wants animals in hockey card packs?’ Personally, I think it is an awesome idea. Kids like animals. Kids like dinosaurs. Champ’s isn’t exactly priced at a kid-friendly level, but I believe there is a retail portion of the product upcoming that is hopefully more accessible. On some hockey card message boards, the reaction of people who have opened these packs with their kids is ‘My son/daughter and I are going to put together the Natural History minis’. To me – that’s great.
On to the cards themselves. In general, the pictures are cool. Being minis, of course they are small. If I am really looking for details in a certain mini, sometimes I find myself scanning it to blow it up a few times. That might or might not mean I am getting old.
The selection of animals included is impressive. There are dinosaurs, mammals, fossils, prehistoric man, birds, and reptiles to name a few. My one quibble – Upper Deck seems to have checklisted this set mainly in alphabetical order. It would have been cooler to have broken it down into subsections by the type of Natural History represented. There would have been more related cards close together in the binder pages, and also if collectors are looking just to do one section (maybe dinosaurs), it would have been easier for them to track down.
This is the coolest Natural History mini I have pulled to date. It just barely edges out the Sabre Toothed Cat. I’m not sure what this particular Komodo Dragon was eating, but it looks like he still has a bit to finish up before he inevitably snacks on the photographer.
Overall Grade for the Natural History Minis: 9/10. The cards look great, they are fairly plentiful in a box (1:3 packs, so you should hit 8 out of a box), but with a large enough checklist to make set building a challenge. As I said, my one quibble is with how the set was checklisted, so I knocked it down a point.
I believe I have covered all the different portions of the product in these posts, so I will have a summary review coming up, hopefully sometime over the weekend.
Obviously, the big hits in this product are the fossils, but I didn’t end up with those. For Champ’s, the fossils and artifacts are case hits, so they aren’t as rare as in products like Allen & Ginter. For more average breaks – you should get 2 autographs and one memorabilia card per box. I hit those odds exactly.
In my box, I hit a Robbie Earl autograph, and a redemption for a Dany Heatley autograph. I also opened four loose packs, and pulled a Steve Mason autograph. Obviously, the Mason was the best pull – it sells for $50-ish pretty consistently on eBay, and I hope to use it as trade bait to pull in some nice pieces for my sets. I am working on the base set, the jersey set, and the entire 480 card mini set.
There are some huge names in the autograph checklist – Tiger Woods is the biggest. Les Stroud (Survivorman) is also in there. Any of the non-hockey names are SP’d on the checklist. That was one of the reasons I steered clear of doing the autograph set. All of the autographs are hard signed though – albeit a bit cramped onto the mini cards.
UD decided against framing the mini relics and autographs, which Topps had done with Allen & Ginter as well as Topps C55 Hockey. It makes storage a bit tricky (although toploaders and pages are available in these sizes), but I think it makes them a bit more appealing. It makes them actually seem like ‘mini autographs’. I’ve never really thought of Topps minis as ‘true minis’ because they are really standard sized. Maybe its just me.
The jerseys are very similar, and in a nice change – they are slightly harder to come by than the autographs. There is a basic set of jerseys featuring mostly current and recently retired NHLers, inserted approximately 1:box and then there are Legends memorabilia cards inserted at a rate of 1:case. My jersey hit was Vesa Toskala. One nice change is that UD now notes on the back of the card that the jersey piece was worn in a “Sharks game” rather than just an ‘official NHL game’.
Overall score for hits in the product: 9/10. There are some bad names in the sets, as there always are, but there are a lot of NHL stars and superstars as well. The really big hits (SP autos and fossils) have long odds, but they add something special if you do happen to hit one. I didn’t hit anything spectacular, but sometimes its nice just to get what you are supposed to.
Another stop on the box review for 2008-09 Upper Deck Champ’s Hockey. The minis. There are base set minis, and then there are parallels for all the base minis. The base mini cards have black printing ink on the back of the cards. The parallels are Brown (1:25 packs), Red (1:144 packs), Blue (1:288 packs), and Purple (1:576 packs). So, long odds on a lot of these for sure. The parallels combine to fall 1:24 packs. In my box, I hit a blue back parallel of Brian Gionta. Nice to get one of the rarer parallels. Not so nice to get a guy that doesn’t get much hobby love.
Upper Deck extended the base set for the minis – basically, they aren’t a straight parallel for the larger base cards in each pack. There are 192 mini veterans, as opposed to 100 in the base set. This is great – it makes buildign the set more challenging and it also gives player collectors of the lesser known guys a little something extra to chase.
There are usually two mini cards per pack. I had packs with three minis, and I had packs with only one mini. There was no discernable pattern to this. Packs with extra minis didn’t necessarily have a ‘hit’ mini or anything like that.
Base minis are said to have a 1923-1924 design. I can’t find any of the originals on eBay or Google to compare with. Its a pretty cool design though. Jarret Stoll and Chris Kunitz were two of the guys I collected when I was hardcore into hockey.
Mini Rookie Cards again have a different design. I’m not sure if this is also reminiscent of 1923-24 or not. Mini rookies should fall 1:8 packs. I hit those odds right on and landed three mini rookies in my box. None of them were very good – this will be a challenging portion of the mini set to collect, with there being 100 of these as well.
Overall grade for the base minis and parallels in this set – 8/10. Challenging, without being impossible (hey – trading is half the fun of set building), and the parallels give some added value to the box. One quibble is that I am not a huge fan of parallels where the only difference is visible on the back. Makes it sketchy buying and trading online.
Continuing with my piecework review of the box of 2008-09 Upper Deck Champ’s hockey that I broke early today, let’s finish off the base set with the slightly SP’d rookies (1:2 packs). There are 100 of these as well. One more vote for expanding the base set – there shouldn’t be the same number of rookie cards as base cards in a product.
UD went with a completely new design for the rookie cards. I’m not sure if this is an actual retro design, or just supposed to look retro. I’m kind of torn on this. Part of me thinks the rookies look cool. The other part of me wishes that they looked more consistent with the base set. Perhaps the same basic design but with a ‘Champ’s Rookie’ designation at the bottom where the regular base cards just say ‘Champ’s’. As might be expected for rookies – there are no stats on the back, just short write up about the player.
With 100 rookie cards, this set hits all the big names, so there are no issues with the checklisting. A few guys (Ty Wishart for sure) make their RC debut in Champ’s as well. If you are busting this and aren’t sure who you are looking for, these are the names that should make you sit up and take notice: Steven Stamkos, Luke Schenn, Steve Mason, Kyle Okposo, Drew Doughty, Mikkel Boedker, Kyle Turris, and Justin Pogge. There are lots of good rookies in this year’s crop, so this list is by no means exhaustive.
As I mentioned earlier, the rookies are slightly SP’d, falling one in every two packs. I hit these odds bang on. I opened a box (24 packs) + four loose packs and I have 14 rookie cards. No issues there. I like SP’d rookie cards – they add a bit of a challenge to the set, and also give a bit more value to the RCs. You’d need to open up 8+ boxes with perfect collation to nail the entire set, so these cards should have decent value. Maybe not as good as the ever popular Young Guns, but if this set proves popular with set builders, Champ’s Rookie Cards should be able to pull themselves out of the low – mid end quagmire we sometimes see.
Overall Rating for the RC portion of the product: 8/10. The design issue is still gnawing at the back of my brain. No issues with checklist, seeding or quality control keeps this rating up near the top of the grading scale.
Also commonly known as the Upper Deck hockey version of A&G. For those die hard hockey card fans out there – its much closer to 03/04 Topps C55. Right down to the box design actually. The only thing it is missing is the box topper containing all minis.
I’m going to review this box / product on a piece work basis. This post is dedicated to the base cards.
2008-09 Upper Deck Champ’s Hockey has a 100 card base set. Its mostly current players, but there are a few veterans thrown in there as well – as you can see by this awesome looking Bobby Orr. These cards would be awesome for TTM – but a lot of these guys are tricky TTM. Any time a set is limited to 100 cards – it contains mainly the biggest names. That cuts down on TTM opportunities.
These cards are printed on thick cardboard stock. The backs are grey cardboard, feature a 5 year stat rundown, with totals for the player’s entire career as well. There’s also a short write up about the player. Current and legend players receive the same treatment for the card backs.
This is a set I wouldn’t mind seeing doubled or tripled in size. It would improve the chances for TTM sigs (and the set has the perfect finish). Also, with the large number of minis, and other things in the packs – breaking more than one box would get less repetitive with a larger base set.
Overall – the base set gets a 9/10. the only deduction being for the small size. QC was good. The thicker stock holds up well, and while there were a few rough cuts, they don’t detract from a card nearly so much in a vintage themed set as they would in a more modern design.
When I went out to get provisions today, I found myself in Wal-Mart. This is a Canadian Wal-Mart, of course, so there was no baseball to be found. Luckily, I like hockey. I grabbed a retail blaster of 08/09 Series 2 Hockey. A little history primer – I have terrible luck with base Upper Deck hockey. However, I often keep going back for more. This was one of those cases.
I’m not going to scan any base cards, but suffice to say – the photography is excellent. Hockey really lends itself well to photography. I think it is a combination of the weird positions players often find themselves in, and the ice providing a white background that the players really pop out against. Upper Deck Series 2 is the usual mix of inserts, Victory Update cards and the main hits – Young Guns. Good Young Guns make or break any base UD bust.
This blaster was 12 retail packs. I should end up with 6 Victory Update cards, 2 Young Guns, and some random number of inserts, which I can never really figure out. Memorabilia cards are about 1:240 packs. Suffice to say – I’m not that lucky. Here’s the damage:
Tales of the Cup Insert: Those damn Montreal Canadiens abandoned the Stanley Cup at the side of the road in 1924 afer changing a tire. This is Howie Morenz pictured on the card. Unfortunately, there is no known photograph of the Stanley Cup abandoned by the side of the road.
Victory Update Rookies: Luke Schenn, Jonas Frogren, Jared Ross. Two Maple Leafs!! Including the team’s saviour du jour – Luke Schenn. Frogren is nice, but Schenn is one of very few bright spots for a very bad Leafs team. Being that he is so important to my favorite team – I of course traded for a copy of this card last week. And of course, this had to be balanced out by a Flyer. Sigh….
Young Guns: Simeon Varlamov & Justin Pogge. The hits keep on coming for this Leafs fan. I love Justin Pogge. He is another ray of light for the Leafs, but he has struggled in his introduction to the NHL this season. He was Canada’s hero at the 2006 World Junior Hockey Championships. Varlamov is the heir apparent to the Washington Capitals goal crease, whenever he proves his readiness. Bar none – these are the best Young Guns I have ever pulled. Goalies always are a bit more popular than skaters, and Pogge was the one YG I wanted out of the product.
There you have my little hockey interlude. I am heading out to a card show tomorrow – with the possibility of Topps Heritage packs to break. I’ll have a few posts with my pickups tomorrow, hopefully.
I stumbled across a post I had overlooked about 08/09 Upper Deck Ultimate Hockey this afternoon. Beckett’s blog has some behind the scene pictures of signings and cards from the All-Star break. There’s a shot of the Steven Stamkos 1/1 Shield patch, as well Shield cards for Kane and Getzlaf. There’s Luke Schenn signing autographs for fans (hey, he’s the only reason to watch the Leafs this year), as well as Joe Thornton and Devin Setoguchi doing private signings for UD. Here’s to no redemptions for the big names.
UD Ultimate is always one of my favorite products as far as looks go. Its usually neck and neck with SP Authentic just based on aesthetics. Despite this, I am usually on the sideline for anything but singles, as it is always one of the biggest gambles out there. Maybe this year, what with me having a job besides poor student.
Just a short note, to point out that one of the NHL’s burgeoning grudge matches gets a chance to renew itself this evening. The Pittsburgh Penguins take on the Washington Capitals. Yes, Crosby vs. Ovechkin, but that’s not the real story. Ovechkin and Crosby don’t really seem to hate each other. Ovechkin and Malkin? They really seem to hate each other. If you believe the rumours, the trouble started when Ovechkin punched out Malkin’s agent in a bar. League golden boy Sidney Crosby doesn’t get out of the fuss scott free though. Caps forward Alexander Semin ripped Crosby in an interview at the start of the season, basically saying “What’s so special about (Crosby)? I don’t see anything special there.”
You may have recently seen Semin in a slap fight with Marc Staal of the New York Rangers. Yes, a slap fight. No, I’m not kidding. I wish I were. Check the video. Although, Staal doesn’t really have much to be proud of with the way he turtled under the crushing blows from Semin’s palms.
Unfortunately this game is not going to be widely televised. Partly due to the NHL’s crappy TV deal, and partly due to TSN’s bizarre insistence on showing an Ottawa / Atlanta game on one channel and those lovable losers the Toronto Raptors on another. There is regional coverage of the game in the States, and if anything happens, it should make all the highlight reels if you stick around to the end of the show.